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#1 ·
Well, I have heard alot of talk here about this cutter, the palio. Some big raves about it actually! Some doubt that I am a noob, but now I will prove it. What is the Palio? and what makes it so great? I have never seen one in person, but when I looked on-line it looked like just another double guillotine cutter. Sure, it was a little fancier, but a guillotine nonetheless. Unfortunately, my local B&M doesn't carry them, and wont for some reason. I would like to try one out to see what the talk is all about, but cant afford to buy it and cant test it cause I cant find one to test. So, I ask this, what is it really like? How is it built? What makes it so special? Is it Japanese steel, German steel, or some miraculous metal from another dimension? I strongly doubt any cutter could match up to my Xicar. Not even the $75.00 credo or the $100 imcorona cutters I tried got a second glimpse from me. Prove to me why they are so great.

I know its a weird request, but I am a hard person to convince by word and this seems to be a "try it and see" situation. Is it possible I can borrow one from someone? I don't know how it would work, and if not, no biggy, but I still would like to hear why they are so great. Oh, and not trying to be a mooch here, just skeptical and curious. If I seem that way, feel free to delete this thread; I just want to know.

Appreciatively,
Jeff
 
#3 ·
I never realized cigar cutters made that much of a difference until I forgot my cutter on the Arganese trip and someone lent me their Palio. I had heard a lot about them, and I guess that was one of my "try it and see" moments. Well, I have never had a cutter give me a finer or more perfect cut than that Palio. Ever since then, Ive been wanting to buy one myself. If you really do want to try one, you would probably have luck at a herf - from what Ive noticed, there's always someone there that has one. $50 is a lot to spend on a cutter, but for a Palio it's well worth it.

As Chris said, it depends on what you prefer. Tried a Xikar a few times, not a big fan. I find them sort of awkward and cumbersome.
 
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I was skeptical Jeff on this cutter and did more research than anyone here--I'm that way! Anyhow, I recommend the Palio because it is the BEST CUTTER on the market today. I've used all types of cutters and thought at first this was a single blade and it's not.It is a Guillotine and will cut the caps of many cigars without damaging the cigar. You also get a LIFETIME warranty with this cutter. That pretty much speaks for itself. If I knew the reason it gives the very best cut to EVERY cigar I smoke, I my friend would be a Millionaire, That said, If your in the market for the best out there for under $40 bucks at Cigarmony. You also can take it to any LOCAL B&M for replacement if you have a mechanical defect & if they carry it. No questions asked.Then do not hesitate and purchase. If you don't like it, I propose this to you, I will buy it from you myself. So there you have it, No strings attached.

I am in no way affiliated to Palio but wish I was --HaH!
 
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I was skeptical Jeff on this cutter and did more research than anyone here--I'm that way! Anyhow, I recommend the Palio because it is the BEST CUTTER on the market today. I've used all types of cutters and thought at first this was a single blade and it's not.It is a Guillotine and will cut the caps of many cigars without damaging the cigar. You also get a LIFETIME warranty with this cutter. That pretty much speaks for itself. If I knew the reason it gives the very best cut to EVERY cigar I smoke, I my friend would be a Millionaire, That said, If your in the market for the best out there for under $40 bucks at www.cigarmony.com. Mark was very helpful in assuring me this was the go to cutter and I think you can send it back if you don't like it. You also can take it to any LOCAL B&M for replacement if you have a mechanical defect & if they carry it. No questions asked.Then do not hesitate and purchase. If you don't like it, I propose this to you, I will buy it from you myself. So there you have it, No strings attached.

I am in no way affiliated to Palio but wish I was --HaH!
Hi Paul,

I think you may have mixed something up in your post ;)

It definitely depends on personal preference. Some people like the "action" of a double bladed guillotine other prefer the scissor style action of the Xikar.

With that said, the Palio is hand's down the best double guillotine cutter ever made (IMHO, of course).

I have been using the same Palio for about 7 years as my "go to" cutter and with periodical cleaning, it cuts as clean as ever.

I hope this helps

~Mark
 
#7 ·
Its a long term thing. I havpurchased a huge number of cheap cutters and over time they all dull. You need a nice sharp cutter to cut the cigar correctly. I but about one every 6 months or so. So over 20+ years of smoking, i have spent a good amount just on cutters. Buying one good quality cutter willmake you forget about the price PLUS youll be able to have it for years and years.
 
#8 ·
I use my Palio all the time...doubt anyone would part with their's for the short term to let you try it out...lol...but I have used many cutters in the past and this is the best hands down. I tried the Xikar and I know people love those as well. It gives an excellent cut too, but I was not a fan and it did not feel comfortable to me. The blades on the Palio are thin and razor sharp. I have the carbon fiber model thanks to Mark at Cigarmony.
 
#9 ·
thanks guys, esp tobac man (your discription and pictures helped alot)! You have convinced me to try it, when I get a chance of course. However, I am also cutious if anyone has tried the credo or imcorona and can compare it to those for me. i'm sorry, but like i said, I am a hard person to convince.
 
#10 ·
If you like your Xikar, then why change? It just sounds funny that you keep saying you are a hard person to convince....no one here is making any money off of the Palio sale so why try so hard to convince you? Its a great cutter...try it out if ya can, or just order one. Bottom line is that you wont regret it.
 
#11 ·
If you like your Xikar, then why change? It just sounds funny that you keep saying you are a hard person to convince....no one here is making any money off of the Palio sale so why try so hard to convince you? Its a great cutter...try it out if ya can, or just order one. Bottom line is that you wont regret it.
oh, sorry, didnt mean to make it sound like that. I been debatin it for a while, and I really want to see comparison. Its less about you convincin me than it is about you helping me convince myself. I cant try it, so I want to see your experiences compared to those cutters I have had.
 
#12 ·
A good cutter is a must when u really want to enjoy ur cigar to the full potential. nothing worse than a smushed cap on a cigar. Im quite happy with the sharpness and action on my xikar, but Im interested in palio and will probably get one eventually
 
#13 ·
It's funny how when I started, I was content with a simple cheap double blade given away for free with orders or from a B&M. Then I upgraded to an Xikar, and was blown away on what I had been missing, used the one I have for about a year. About a month ago, I go in on a group buy on a Palio. Let me put it to you this way, I smoke two cigars a day for several days after I got it just to have the chance to cut the cap with my Palio. I suggest you try or get one at some point, you will not regret it.
 
#14 ·
My Palio cutter gets worked out 4-6 times a day, and has for well over two years. It also cuts lots of other people's cigars at herfs, etc... It has cut thousands of cigars and is still as sharp today as when I first received it. I have a Xikar that sits next to my every night smoking chair - as a back up. The only time it gets used is if I leave my Palio upstairs.
 
#18 ·
We stock both cutters.

The real difference is the Palio has the feel of the old double slide cutter & we sell these to the people who can not get used to the newer more ergonomic Xikar.

We sell 30 Xikars to 1 Palio.
I wouldn't say thats the only difference. My Xikar never cut as well as my palio does. Even brand new. My palio thats 2 years old cuts better than my Xikar cut when it was new. But thats just my experience. For me, its not a matter of getting used to holding it. I had no problem holding it and cutting with it, but the cut was nowhere near as good for me.
Scott

EDIT: If I could bear to be without my palio for a week or so, I'd send it to you to try :)
 
#19 ·
I wouldn't say thats the only difference. My Xikar never cut as well as my palio does. Even brand new. My palio thats 2 years old cuts better than my Xikar cut when it was new. But thats just my experience. For me, its not a matter of getting used to holding it. I had no problem holding it and cutting with it, but the cut was nowhere near as good for me.
Scott

EDIT: If I could bear to be without my palio for a week or so, I'd send it to you to try :)
I own both & the Palio is just as sharp as day one. But so is my Xikar. If your Xikar is more than 2 yrs old you are probably correct. If less than 2 yrs old I would send it in for a replacement.

I did notice the steel improvement about 2 yrs ago. And now if you purchase an inexpensive or expensive Xikar you get the good steel.

We sell both so as long as you buy one of these two cutters, you are getting the best money can buy.

Now remember this is my opinion as a shop owner who has sold hundreds of cutters as well as have used many more over my 39 years of smoking cigars.
 
#20 ·
Certainly seems to be a matter of personal preference. I own a Xicar and must admit that it took me a while to get used to the feelof it. Now, I love it!

Gee maybe some smart retailer will offer a battle royale by packaging both together at a nice price (hint, hint retailers out there) so people could decide for themselves.
 
#24 ·
ok, so i have fiunally tried the palio. we got them in the shop, and all i can say is they cut great! the only fault in my opinion is the fact the hingewors is done with the same material as the handle. i think it would have looked better if it wasnt, but that doesnt affect the cut and would have prolly just given it something more to break. i highly recomend this cutter to anyone. i do, unfortunately have to admit, i still prefer the xikar's action, the palio is just too dangerous to be in my hands lol. i also picked up a credo a while back! definately my favorite cutter, but alot higher than the other too and no lifetime warranty, so i would still suggest the xikar! thanks again for all the help and advice