I thought a torpedo was a figurado. Aren't all cigars with straight sides called parejos and all cigars without straight sides are figurados.

 

You are correct. The OP seems a bit confused about cigar terminology.

 

I think some descriptions just go a little further and tell you what kind of figurado it is.

 

My apologies regarding the phrasing. If you can, go to www.olivacigar.com/melanio_oliva_cigar.aspx and you will see what I am referring to.

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The link isn't working for me. Is the cigar a perfecto?

 

Both have a torpedo tip but different foot. The question probably has to do with the difference in the foot. Both are listed as same size 6.5x52

 

All things being equal, the tapered foot is harder to roll. That extra expense is passed to the consumer.

 

Again, I am apologize if I am describing the nomenclature incorrectly), so I'll try to let you visualize it by my description. Neither is the classic parejo, with straight sides and a rounded head. Oliva's "torpedo" has parallel sides, a torpedo head and symmetrical foot. Oliva's "figurado" is shaped exactly as their torpedo, except it has an indented foot. In other words, a perfecto which is not indented on both sides, just the foot. Its head is torpedo-shaped. If there is a noun which describes the second stick, let me know it.


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So, Scap, it truly is just an aesthetic measure, then, and the cost difference is the intricacy of the roll?


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Oliva does call this cigar a "Figurado" so the OP is correct in his initial question. The "Figurado" in this case is a modified torpedo. It is a parejo and not a perfecto or double perfecto because it lacks the bulge in the center. It really is simply a fuligurado with a torpedo head and taperd foot. I don't see the slight taper (last 1 1/2" or so) as being more difficult to roll and justifying a $5 hike in price. However, uniqueness sells so that may be the deal here. It's different so it should fetch more money. I disagree so I'll stick to the torpedo.

 

$5 over 10 sticks isn't much money.
But I can see where it could be just the novelty factor adding to the price.

 

LeatherNeck, Scap and all: thanks much for your help and clarification! Two years lighting up and still learning. That's what is great about this forum. And, btw, that is why I'll stick with the torpedo!


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The second cigar you show, the one that Olivia describes as a Figurado is shaped like a perfecto.

These have an interesting history. They were designed to be a "one match" cigar back at a time when matches were the primary way cigars were lit.

 

Now that's some pure cigar history and knowledge...thank you Sir!

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I think the sellers create part of the problem by sometimes using the specific style and sometimes using the type. Like calling a Camaro a Chevrolet part of the time and calling it a Camaro part of the time. Both are accurate, one is just more specific.

 

@Cigary - Yes, I tend to agree with all that. Cigar manufacturers are free to play around with all the different names for cigar shapes and sizes. They can call their cigars whatever they want. I prefer to think of all cigars as either Parejo's or some type of Figurado.

I still disagree with Leatherneck though in referring to the Oliva Figurado as a Parejo.

 

I still disagree with Leatherneck though in referring to the Oliva Figurado as a Parejo.

Agree. That was a bit of a misinterpretation, me thinks.

Technically, maybe the Torpedo could be considered a parejo, but not the Oliva Figurado. But no one I know in the cigar biz gets quite that technical about it. Torpedos, pyramids, and perfectos are all figurados in the common application of the term these days. And "perfecto" is kind of a loose definition that can be applied broadly or specifically, as long as it has a tapered foot IMO.

 

There should be a slight difference in taste, as there very well may be a difference in the blending between the various sizes, and a different size/shape inherently means there will be a difference in smoking the cigar.

Does a Torp Toro taste like a Perfecto Robusto, like a Long Panatela, like a Short Churchhill?

The price could be due to the blend, but most likely due to difficulty of rolling the figurado vs the torp, as previously stated

Personally, I prefer Perfectos, so I might choose such in this case. I don't think it's completely aesthetic, nor completely marketing gimmick.

As for the naming, yeah, it's crappy how it's all "trade names", like when Subway tried to claim that a Foot-Long was a proprietary name, not an actual foot-long Sandwich - it just adds to the already existing confusion with these things...

 

The Figurado was the COTY 2014. I'm sure that has everything to do with the increased cost