[OnePyroTec]

There is two ways to see whatever cigar "you" want to see reviewed, reviewed.
#1 send the staff the cigars for review
#2 sign up to be a staff reviewer.

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[CarnivorousPelican]

My personal opinion is it's unfair to a cigar to only smoke the first third of a cigar. At the very least a cigar should be smoked through the second third, as many cigar's flavors change. As for your opinion of the Puff Staff and their reviews...unless Puff is selling these cigars they have a right to smoke and review whichever cigars they please. Also, considering Puff.com is a free site that users voluntarily read...it's unfair to expect or demand anything from the staff. They have no responsibility to the users here to buy and smoke as many cigars as possible. In reality the staff of Puff is probably just like me.

My two cents. To each either own.

So you don't believe in internet responsibility ( did he just say "internet responsibility" ) O yes and what I mean by that is having integrity because anyone who puts this much effort into something their character and passion will show if puff maintainers, owners admins etc didn't have a passion and integrity they wouldn't be as successful as they are so they also have a certain responsibility to their users when they neglect or abuse that trust or responsibility it reflects upon their character and harms their integrity free or not This is a kinda philosophical hypothetical idea that am throwing out there nothing that would disparage the fine character of puff management, owners and associates... So the forum etc maybe provided free w/ ads but puff still has a responsibility to its users if it wants to keep its integrity intact.. I rest my case....

By the way you can buy my book called "Bullshit and I love it" for 2.99

 

[Brookswphoto]

I read cigar reviews on different sites and watch some one YouTube. I have yet to see anyone say "This is the worst cigar made". I did see the guy on CigarObsession.com trash a Gurkha but I can't remember which one it was.

Review: La Aurora 107 Maduro Gran 107 (2011) | halfwheel

 

[FireRunner]

So you don't believe in internet responsibility ( did he just say "internet responsibility" ) O yes and what I mean by that is having integrity because anyone who puts this much effort into something their character and passion will show if puff maintainers, owners admins etc didn't have a passion and integrity they wouldn't be as successful as they are so they also have a certain responsibility to their users when they neglect or abuse that trust or responsibility it reflects upon their character and harms their integrity free or not This is a kinda philosophical hypothetical idea that am throwing out there nothing that would disparage the fine character of puff management, owners and associates... So the forum etc maybe provided free w/ ads but puff still has a responsibility to its users if it wants to keep its integrity intact.. I rest my case....

By the way you can buy my book called "Bullshit and I love it" for 2.99

Yes, I disagree with you. Unless you are paying for this site or for the use of this site's services, you have no right to demand anything from this site or its owners. The "internet responsibility" you eloquently refer to is your opinion. It is not law nor is it common practice. If a site does not provide what a user wants, that user should move on. The site itself, who has no monetary or contractual agreement with the user, does not need to change to the needs of a user.

This topic goes down the same dirt path of people on the Internet wanting everything for free. They expect others to pay for the information they want. I'll end my comments here, as this subject has been beaten more over than a used cigar butt toss in the middle of an eight lane highway. Your opinion is just that - your opinion.

 

[JG5000]

Yes, I disagree with you. Unless you are paying for this site or for the use of this site's services, you have no right to demand anything from this site or its owners. The "internet responsibility" you eloquently refer to is your opinion. It is not law nor is it common practice. If a site does not provide what a user wants, that user should move on. The site itself, who has no monetary or contractual agreement with the user, does not need to change to the needs of a user.

This topic goes down the same dirt path of people on the Internet wanting everything for free. They expect others to pay for the information they want. I'll end my comments here, as this subject has been beaten more over than a used cigar butt toss in the middle of an eight lane highway. Your opinion is just that - your opinion.

I believe you both may be correct.

Of course you don't have the right to demad somthing you are not paying for. Although feed back is a tool that people sometimes pay for and is certainly valuable.

Puff is great site and that's why we are all on using it.

I think the feedback may be of value here both for puff and the user. People want to see positive and negative reviews. More people may use the review section if it didn't seem like an advertisement (IMO) and this may increase traffic flow where Puff may benifit via advertising revenue. Or not...what do I know:anim_soapbox:

 

[CarnivorousPelican]

I believe you both may be correct.

Of course you don't have the right to demad somthing you are not paying for. Although feed back is a tool that people sometimes pay for and is certainly valuable.

Puff is great site and that's why we are all on using it.

I think the feedback may be of value here both for puff and the user. People want to see positive and negative reviews. More people may use the review section if it didn't seem like an advertisement (IMO) and this may increase traffic flow where Puff may benifit via advertising revenue. Or not...what do I know:anim_soapbox:

Could puff thrive without the user? I am beating this horse into soup Also I believe the Terms of Agreement is a contract which one does agree to So we infact do have a kind of agreement between the user and puff.

Look at google, facebook, etc they all heed the user Sir.. Now I believe there is proper tact to make a suggestion and puff can take it or leave it etc...

By the way I would like to thank those who maintain, own, and administrate puff the info here has helped me tremendously but BUT all of the information that has helped me has come from the users.. Which I must also thank
Just by that alone we can see a symbiotic relationship exists between provider and user.. Without user the provider provides nothing and without the provider the user doesn't receive the provided service... At this point am creating a horse stew. So it is indeed in Puff's interest and responsibility to heed the end user and it is the end users responsibility to contribute in a meaningful way.. Hence the none verbal agreement of user and provider.. I rest my case this horse stew is about done

 

[Suzza]

The reviews all depend on the circumstances surrounding the reviewer. Do the manufacturers give the cigars to the reviewer for free? Do any manufacturers advertise on the reviewer's site/magazine? If so, naturally the reviewer is forced to give good reviews to cigars that they don't like. Otherwise the manufacturers will want nothing to do with them. Cigar Aficionado is a perfect example of this. They consistently give Rocky Patels and Gurkhas excellent reviews. And they don't necessarily do it because the cigars are good, but rather because they don't want to piss off their advertisers and lose money. So in the end the only way you will get a 100% honest review on every cigar is if the reviewer buys the cigars with their own money and doesn't have any advertisers. Of course that doesn't mean that every review from someone like Cigar Aficionado is dishonest. It just means that if they want to stay in business there does need to be a decent amount of ass kissing.

 

[OnePyroTec]

The reviews all depend on the circumstances surrounding the reviewer. Do the manufacturers give the cigars to the reviewer for free? Do any manufacturers advertise on the reviewer's site/magazine? If so, naturally the reviewer is forced to give good reviews to cigars that they don't like. Otherwise the manufacturers will want nothing to do with them. Cigar Aficionado is a perfect example of this. They consistently give Rocky Patels and Gurkhas excellent reviews. And they don't necessarily do it because the cigars are good, but rather because they don't want to piss off their advertisers and lose money. So in the end the only way you will get a 100% honest review on every cigar is if the reviewer buys the cigars with their own money and doesn't have any advertisers. Of course that doesn't mean that every review from someone like Cigar Aficionado is dishonest. It just means that if they want to stay in business there does need to be a decent amount of ass kissing.

No truer words spoken. A couple friends of mine did review for a certain "cigar" magazine, and the reviews were re-worded before published. When the editors were asked, the simple reply was, "they are advertisers, we can't print that"

I will re-state, that if someone feels a certain cigar "should" be reviewed, Puff has an open door where anyone is free to send cigars for review, OR join the review staff. IMHO when the day comes that someone demands something be done by someone who is providing a FREE service...then it may be time to start providing your own service and start your own website.

 

[capttrips]

Hell, and I thought I was going to be the one getting the note from the moderators.

 

[Habanolover]

I have honestly never read one of the staff reviews. There are posters here who have similar tastes as mine so I will usually look towards their reviews or thoughts on any new (to me) cigar that I plan on trying. IMO the reviews written by the members here are far more valuable than the staff reviews.

 

[Brookswphoto]

The reviews all depend on the circumstances surrounding the reviewer. Do the manufacturers give the cigars to the reviewer for free? Do any manufacturers advertise on the reviewer's site/magazine? If so, naturally the reviewer is forced to give good reviews to cigars that they don't like. Otherwise the manufacturers will want nothing to do with them.

While I don't deny that this happens with SOME sites and reviewers, there are reviewers and sites that are truthful, honest and sincere in their reviews, regardless of where the cigars come from.

There are also manufacturers who value different opinions, regardless of whether the reviewer likes the cigar or not. And there are some that don't.

So I guess the answer is: it depends.