i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons".

 

i guess pipe smoking isn't for you with all those "cons".

:tpd:

 

i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons".

:tpd:

Well shut my mouth and call me cornpone!

 

try some purple cow.

and i don't know wtf you are sweating like that, i sure as hell would have that checked out.

 

Pros
- Smoke doesn't leave a rancid smell on everything it touches, generally will not stink up a room for more then a day.

Cons
- When you start sweating heavily, say during a work out, even a day after you've smoked a pipe you will smell like an Islay scotch, peaty and salty. Gross.

These statements seem to contradict each other ...
I've also never experienced this particular "Con" with pipes or cigars.

If you listed all the tobacco blends you've tried, then suggestions could be made. Otherwise it seems like you have already talked yourself out of pipe smoking.

 

Cons
- What can brown do for you? When I smoke a pipe, about 30 minutes later whatever is in my "system" upgrades to Expedited 30 Minute Shipping... If you know what I mean. (I mean poop.)
- When you start sweating heavily, say during a work out, even a day after you've smoked a pipe you will smell like an Islay scotch, peaty and salty. Gross.
- Packing and cleaning a pipe are annoying to me, and I hate having to carry around a bag just so I can smoke my pipe outdoors.

Most controversially, the taste of pipe tobacco is a con IMO, compared to cigar tobacco. There is a fundamental difference. The way pipe tobacco affects my body indicates to me that it is more acidic then cigar tobacco, probably not fermented as much if at all. Much more like cigarette tobacco, and the way a room smells after smoking a pipe reinforces this.

Also every pipe tobacco I have smoked has tasted either sickly sweet or like herbs and anise (virginias and english blends, and I've smoked what is supposed to be some of the best of both), or simply like dried vegetable matter. Even if it doesn't have flavor additives it tastes like it does.

In contrast even an inexpensive cigar will have a musky chickencoop tobacco taste, like tobacco should taste. Pleasant even if there aren't hints of 7 year vanilla to be found in it.

The cons would be outweighed if I could find a pipe tobacco that was just plain, strong, mouthwatering tobacco like a cigar.

Stop smoking shit pipe tobacco

 

Maybe you need to find some pipe tobacco flavored with 7 year old Madagascar vanilla?

 

Maybe you need to find some pipe tobacco flavored with 7 year old Madagascar vanilla?

Or find some ISOM pipe tobacco, that stuff is fantastic.

 

try some purple cow.

and i don't know wtf you are sweating like that, i sure as hell would have that checked out.

maybe there has been some kind of narcotic in his tobacco

 

I'd love to be able to make an intelligent comment or suggestion to help with your dilemma, but I am at a total loss for words!!! I am truly interested in which pipe tobaccos you have smoked and which cigars you prefer to smoke.

Johnny

 

I'm not laughing AT you... okay, maybe I am. Your post may not have come across the way you intended.
Can you provide us with more ammunition?
I mean information, of course.

You've forgotten another pro. You can set a pipe down and come back to it MUCH later. Try that with a cigar.

 

Actually if you leave the cigar alone for a couple of hours it will be almost as good as new, that has been my experience. The tars congeal or something.

I have smoked:
Laurel Heights
Vintage Syrian
Haddos Delight
Old Gowrie
Dunhill Nightcap
Pease Odyssey
McC Bombay Extra (actually liked this one well enough)
Westminster (same, somewhat liked it)

And some others. Cigars I enjoy.... Basically everything except the known nasty ones. 5 Vegas, the cigar.com blends (especially cause they're cheap), a bunch more. I've done a few reviews on here if anyone wants to check them out... I'm not going to reprint them here.

"i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons"."
Hmm... I guess I don't like tasting stewed prunes, syrupy sweet chocolate and/or anise in what I'm smoking. I want it to taste like tobacco. And musky fermented chickenshit.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel :mn

This is just my :2 Peace. Out.

 

Actually if you leave the cigar alone for a couple of hours it will be almost as good as new, that has been my experience. The tars congeal or something.

I have smoked:
Laurel Heights
Vintage Syrian
Haddos Delight
Old Gowrie
Dunhill Nightcap
Pease Odyssey
McC Bombay Extra (actually liked this one well enough)
Westminster (same, somewhat liked it)

And some others. Cigars I enjoy.... Basically everything except the known nasty ones. 5 Vegas, the cigar.com blends (especially cause they're cheap), a bunch more. I've done a few reviews on here if anyone wants to check them out... I'm not going to reprint them here.

"i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons"."
Hmm... I guess I don't like tasting stewed prunes, syrupy sweet chocolate and/or anise in what I'm smoking. I want it to taste like tobacco. And musky fermented chickenshit.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel :mn

This is just my :2 Peace. Out.

Not to be a smartass, but if you don't like so many things about smoking a pipe, then WHY do you want to smoke one? I guess no one really understands where you're coming from and you did kind of step into the pipe forum and degrade our hobby. I'm not real surprised at some the hostility.

 

Actually if you leave the cigar alone for a couple of hours it will be almost as good as new, that has been my experience. The tars congeal or something.

I have smoked:
Laurel Heights
Vintage Syrian
Haddos Delight
Old Gowrie
Dunhill Nightcap
Pease Odyssey
McC Bombay Extra (actually liked this one well enough)
Westminster (same, somewhat liked it)

And some others. Cigars I enjoy.... Basically everything except the known nasty ones. 5 Vegas, the cigar.com blends (especially cause they're cheap), a bunch more. I've done a few reviews on here if anyone wants to check them out... I'm not going to reprint them here.

"i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons"."
Hmm... I guess I don't like tasting stewed prunes, syrupy sweet chocolate and/or anise in what I'm smoking. I want it to taste like tobacco. And musky fermented chickenshit.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel :mn

This is just my :2 Peace. Out.

What exactly did you wish to accomplish with this thread? It seems to me that you are against smoking a pipe. Thats all well and good, but it is rude to enter the "Pipe Forum", and tell us that what we smoke is bad. To me, this thread did nothing to educate or inform anyone. Perhaps it is your tastes that are off. The main thing stated in most all newbie pipe threads is that pipes should not be compared to cigars. Kinda like comparing beer and scotch.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel :mn

Why even post this phrase? It is apparent you just came in to stir up shit.

 

- When you start sweating heavily, say during a work out, even a day after you've smoked a pipe you will smell like an Islay scotch, peaty and salty.

No problem for me. I sweat actual Islay Scotch!

 

Actually if you leave the cigar alone for a couple of hours it will be almost as good as new, that has been my experience. The tars congeal or something.

I have smoked:
Laurel Heights
Vintage Syrian
Haddos Delight
Old Gowrie
Dunhill Nightcap
Pease Odyssey
McC Bombay Extra (actually liked this one well enough)
Westminster (same, somewhat liked it)

And some others. Cigars I enjoy.... Basically everything except the known nasty ones. 5 Vegas, the cigar.com blends (especially cause they're cheap), a bunch more. I've done a few reviews on here if anyone wants to check them out... I'm not going to reprint them here.

"i guess pips smoking isn't for you with all those "cons"."
Hmm... I guess I don't like tasting stewed prunes, syrupy sweet chocolate and/or anise in what I'm smoking. I want it to taste like tobacco. And musky fermented chickenshit.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel :mn

This is just my :2 Peace. Out.

Actually if you leave the cigar alone for a couple of hours it will be almost as good as new, that has been my experience. The tars congeal or something.

Well, I didn't come here to win a damn popularity contest so tell me how you guys really feel.

This is just my :2 Peace. Out.

Your two highlighted comments, directly above, tell me two things!

One, you don't know squat about cigars, and probably pipe smoking either!!!

Two, when someone acts like a TROLL, talks like a TROLL and makes comments common to a TROLL, they are most likely a TROLL!!!

I am done with this thread!!!:gn

What a waste of time!!! Johnny

 

First off I think we should take a breather and count to 10 before this thread degrades to the point of no return.

Second, pipe smoking is not for everyone. I smoke both cigars and pipes and enjoy them equally for their unique aspects. But I don't expect pipe tobacco to taste like cigars ... just like I don't expect bananas to taste like apples. Pipe smoking also takes a bit more effort than cigars - but I find that it's worth it in the end.

You seem to be at least making an attempt to enjoy pipes - but are getting frustrated. Well I suspect that you probably had some of the same frustration when you began cigar smoking as well. There is a wide variety out there and you needed to smoke the good with the bad until you found the ones that fit your tastebuds. Same is true for pipes.

My suggestions are these:

1. Join a pipe tobacco pass or PIF. You will be able to sample more selections.

2. Talk with a local pipe tobacconist and discuss your likes and dislikes of the tobacco blends you've tried. Hopefully he is seasoned enough to suggest others to try and allow you to purchase small quantities ( or even get free samples! ) to keep the expense down.

3. Go to TobaccoReviews.com and read opinions from others who also enjoyed the two blends you mention above. These people might have similiar tastes as you so check out other blends they rated highly and give those a try. You might also do the reverse and search for people who share your dislike with certain blends - then see which ones they do like.

In the end, smoking tobacco should be an enjoyable and relaxing diversion from the stress and activity of a normal day. If you can't find this in pipes, then stick with cigars. This needn't be a popularity contest - but a comradarie of fellow smokers.

 

EKG ... here are a few of your prior posts that might help here:

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=801718&postcount=12

Have your opinions changed on these?

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=804115&postcount=9

You might consider getting a few more corncobs. Then devote one to English blends only ... one for Virginias .... and one for aromatics / flavored stuff. That way you can better appreciate the tobacco you are currently smoking vs still tasting the blend you had yesterday.

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpost.php?p=521337&postcount=58

I think this was a good post. Maybe you should think along these same lines with regard to pipes.

 

Great advice, Tedski. :tu

 

I'm sorry for your loss EKG.

I'm sorry almost everything about the pipe overwhelms you.

I'm sorry you have to sit on the toilet to smoke a pipe. I'm sorry you have to take a shower right after you get off the toilet. I'm sorry that the shower right after you get off the toilet may not even save you from smelling gross.

I'm sorry that pipe tobacco isn't grown with one purpose in mind. I'm sorry tobacco comes in different styles other than deeply fermented. I'm sorry your body chemistry doesn't support any tobacco other than those said non-nasty cigars. I'm sorry pipe tobacco is not cigar tobacco.

I'm sorry you don't have someone to carry and clean your pipes for you.

I'm sorry pipe tobacco has more than one taste to understand. I'm sorry that pipe tobacco doesn't have musky chicken coop tobacco taste running through every blend.

I'm sorry that you can't find just plain, strong, mouthwatering tobacco like a cigar in a pipe.

I'm sorry but pipes are not for everyone. I'm sorry you can't enjoy both.

I'm sorry I had to write this.

I'm sorry this had to be the direction of this thread, a real discussion would have been great.

I'm sorry that I’m sorry.

 

Great advice, Tedski. :tu

:tpd: Very good post.

 

I'm sorry for your loss EKG.

I'm sorry almost everything about the pipe overwhelms you.

I'm sorry you have to sit on the toilet to smoke a pipe. I'm sorry you have to take a shower right after you get off the toilet. I'm sorry that the shower right after you get off the toilet may not even save you from smelling gross.

I'm sorry that pipe tobacco isn't grown with one purpose in mind. I'm sorry tobacco comes in different styles other than deeply fermented. I'm sorry your body chemistry doesn't support any tobacco other than those said non-nasty cigars. I'm sorry pipe tobacco is not cigar tobacco.

I'm sorry you don't have someone to carry and clean your pipes for you.

I'm sorry pipe tobacco has more than one taste to understand. I'm sorry that pipe tobacco doesn't have musky chicken coop tobacco taste running through every blend.

I'm sorry that you can't find just plain, strong, mouthwatering tobacco like a cigar in a pipe.

I'm sorry but pipes are not for everyone. I'm sorry you can't enjoy both.

I'm sorry I had to write this.

I'm sorry this had to be the direction of this thread, a real discussion would have been great.

I'm sorry that I'm sorry.

:r :r :tu :tpd:

 

I'm sorry you have to sit on the toilet to smoke a pipe. I'm sorry you have to take a shower right after you get off the toilet. I'm sorry that the shower right after you get off the toilet may not even save you from smelling gross.

:r :r

 

I'm sorry for your loss EKG.

I'm sorry almost everything about the pipe overwhelms you.

I'm sorry you have to sit on the toilet to smoke a pipe. I'm sorry you have to take a shower right after you get off the toilet. I'm sorry that the shower right after you get off the toilet may not even save you from smelling gross.

I'm sorry that pipe tobacco isn't grown with one purpose in mind. I'm sorry tobacco comes in different styles other than deeply fermented. I'm sorry your body chemistry doesn't support any tobacco other than those said non-nasty cigars. I'm sorry pipe tobacco is not cigar tobacco.

I'm sorry you don't have someone to carry and clean your pipes for you.

I'm sorry pipe tobacco has more than one taste to understand. I'm sorry that pipe tobacco doesn't have musky chicken coop tobacco taste running through every blend.

I'm sorry that you can't find just plain, strong, mouthwatering tobacco like a cigar in a pipe.

I'm sorry but pipes are not for everyone. I'm sorry you can't enjoy both.

I'm sorry I had to write this.

I'm sorry this had to be the direction of this thread, a real discussion would have been great.

I'm sorry that I'm sorry.

:r - :r I can barely type Root - I'm crying over here :tu

 

EKG, I went back through your posts and I am confused as to where the experience of pipe smoking went "sour" for you. You obviously didn't like the first two but you seen to enjoy the others.

EKG-

"03 McClellands Christmas Cheer… most unimpressive..."

"When I smoked Vanilla Cream, I soon became ill and had to lie down for 2 hours, it was like smoking syrup."

"MacBaren Vintage Syrian…I enjoy it after or even before breakfast when my palate is fresh. It's sophisticated and spicy almost like a quality citrus note cologne."

"When it comes to Nightcap … I love it. It's almost like a barnhouse/fermentation smell.
The whole experience of smoking it reminds me of sitting by the fire in a 250 year old European farm house."

"I've also had a few bowls of Plumcake and I have to say I like it. It is sweet, sometimes tangy and has a very pleasant flavor and topping. If you're in the mood for a fairly light aromatic, check it out."

I am also new to pipe smoking and I know it will take quite a bit of time and many tries at different tobaccos, before I get a handle on the flavors and before I can start to pick out the blends that I favor over others. Knowing this, I would recommend patience when dealing with anything that is new. You may be just going through a "typical stage" that most of us have experienced, before we truly start to appreciate the pipe.

My :2 p