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Hey guys, im curious to hear your thoughts on the online vs B&M thing. for me i have at times been shammed into feeling bad for buying online, but truth be told if it were not for buying online, i probably would have been out of this hobby long ago. i have heard people say that the online dealers are hurting the cigar industry, but i dont feel that way. i dont see the difference in paying $6 for a beer at a bar vs $9.99 for a 12 pack at safeway. there is a market for both.

whats your thoughts?????
 

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Hi Jason, Nothing wrong with asking a question that's been asked before; and I'm sure the links will give you more information about our members opinions about this.

Personally, I use both. For boxes of something I really like, I'll most often use the internet vendors if the price is significantly lower or if it's something I can't get at a local shop. I have a few shops near me that I like to visit, and when I do, I'll purchase a few cigars and accessories from there. I know the owner(s), ask questions, and sit down with some of the guys there to chat and have a smoke.
 

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Since I live in a rural area, I avoid any guilt associated with buying online (not that there should be any guilt anyway). However, it is nice to visit B&M stores when I have the opportunity. I'm often surprised by the brands available at various B&M stores.

While on vacation last week, I had to look in one very small store that was located along the harbor. I ended up buying a Rock-A-Feller cigar (which I'd never even heard of previously). It's a new company, but there still isn't much to learn about them online. Haven't tried it yet, but it's at home waiting for me.

There are definite advantages to both. Online gets a better price, but B&M offers conversation and (sometimes) unique selection.
 

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Hi Jason, Nothing wrong with asking a question that's been asked before; and I'm sure the links will give you more information about our members opinions about this.

Personally, I use both. For boxes of something I really like, I'll most often use the internet vendors if the price is significantly lower or if it's something I can't get at a local shop. I have a few shops near me that I like to visit, and when I do, I'll purchase a few cigars and accessories from there. I know the owner(s), ask questions, and sit down with some of the guys there to chat and have a smoke.
:thumb: +1000

If we didn't post questions that had been asked here before, we'd literally have nothing to talk about. Besides, there are often new developments and new perspectives on any issue.

I'm in the same boat as Dave. I truly believe that the B&M and supporting them is vital to the industry. Like Dave, I like to go in, hob-nob, purchase something I've never tried and see what's out there and selling. For quantity purchases, my economic condition dictates that I source online.

1-5 sticks, B&M

>5 sticks, online
 

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I to use both Internet and B&M's to make my buys. I have just found a great shop tho that carries every thing I might ever need and it will be getting alot of my business from now on.
BUT these days with gas costing so much shipping is cheaper then me driving 1hr to the B&M. So it boils down to me personally wanting to support a B&M which employs people in my state.
 

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I keep trying... Every month or so I walk into a local B&M, but I keep leaving dissapointed. Just this saturday I walked into a B&M that was haveing an event. 10% off on a box purchase, figured I might pick up a box of some cheaper smokes like Oliva G... WRONG. $6.80 a stick for Oliva Gs I get for under $3 online... Even with 10% off it is more than double what I pay... Can't do it.
 

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Wish I can do what you guys do to support the local B&M but I live in the dreaded CALIFORNIA !!!

The state tax here makes it almost impossible. A single stick is twice as much in the local B&M if not more and a box sometimes is almost 2-3 times the price of online.

I love my local shop and have contributed here and there when stopping in for a smoke but I can do anything more than an occasional single and thats about it.

I envy you guys in states with low or no tobacco tax.
 

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The only B&M around me keeps their walk-in waaaaay too humid. I stopped buying anything from them out of my fear of mold (spotted some on a Padron I purchased there last visit). Someday I will check them out again and see if their humidity issues have been resolved. As for now it's all online purchases for me.
 

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The state tax here makes it almost impossible. A single stick is twice as much in the local B&M if not more and a box sometimes is almost 2-3 times the price of online.
Have to disagree with you there. I don't think it is the taxes, it is the local B&M that is deciding to set their prices this high. Last time I was in I asked if their was any wiggle room on the prices and I was told the owner will not allow it.
 

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When I'm desperate, or when its a stick I really want to try, or a special occasion - B&M.
All other times it's online dealers.
I do try to support the local industry though as I have no idea how non cigarette sellers stay afloat.

Uh...well, I'm in AR and our tobacco tax is 68%! Freaking insane!
68%.....that's not bad. I live in Australia :p
Try ~$420 per kg. Works out to be about $4-$5 per robusto.
 

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Let me revise that.

Don't get me wrong I'm not dumping on the local places I have been to as I think they are pretty nice and have a good selection. I have gotten a few recommendations on smokes I loved and enjoyed my conversations with a couple of the employees. I'm just saying that they are choosing to keep their prices high as they have enough customers with wallets much fatter than my own that don't care how much they charge. My 2 pennies.
 

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I really don't think which state you live or taxations in that state play any kind of role in this comparison. Online is just simply cheaper but for trying new singles, the old b&m is the best choice.
 

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I'm not one for supporting somthing simply due to tradition, so if it were just a matter of price I would quite hapily never set foot into a B&M. Fortunately some shops offer something additional that makes the extra cost worth it to me. For example, I can walk into Tim's and take half an hour talking tobacco with the owner and learn more about cigars than I ever thought possible. I can get his opinions on smokes I would never know to look for online and be pretty confident in the reliability of the responses (I like a store owner who will refer to a 20$ cigar as a 2$ stick in an 18$ box). It also gives me a chance to get a feel for the construction of new cigars before I drop cash on them.

That's the kicker though, competition being what it is, a store HAS to offer something to keep customers coming back. A friend and I recently went in to check out a chop we hadn't been to before and the proprietor acted like we were just disturbing him by wanting to check the place out. Consequently, despite his great selection there is no way I'll be going back there, not when I can find the same cigars for half the price and with none of the 'tude online.

But a good shop, with friendly knowledgeable staff is just a cool place to be. Sure I wont buy boxes from them, but if I'm out riding I really like to poke in and grab a handful of singles I haven't tried before, pet the dog, talk a little politics and then finish my ride. You cant get that feel from a website.
 
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