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I probably think about these things too much, however, that being said, I personally think that these are going to be a bit of a flop. Nine years ago, the Cubans released the 30th aniversary Cohiba Jar. Only 1000 were made. They retailed for $800 in Havana, more elsewhere. Nevertheless, they remain on the market to this day, after nine years. (No, I won't tell you where, outside of the two jars that are for sale for $600 at the LCDH in Riyhad, Saudi Arabia--pity its impossible to get a tourist visa there.) In 2001 the cubans rolled out the trinidad farm house humidor, of which there was to be just 1000 examples. Several of them are still availible on the primary market, at discounted prices. Just like the Cohiba 30th's, they plan to sell 1000 humidors of Robustos in a special humidor for $1000. They plan to prevent grey market sales by dumping everything on the market at the same time. However, while speculators and collectors will buy a large number, I doubt they will buy them all at the onset. If my memory serves me right, the Cubans sold the Cohiba Seleccion Reserva for $830 in Havana. After a month or so of dismal sales (during the festival), they lowered the price to $530. Is a simmilar future for the Partagas Reserva, and the even more expensive Reserva Selecta in the future? I personally think so. By the time the Reserva Selecta comes out in december, there will definally be some sort of discount. Anyone have any opinons on the subject? Agree, or disagree?
 

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Yeah, I would say that if Habanos is not careful, they are going to unique themselves right out of another customer. I for one feel like they should put their full attention to making the finest cigars in the world truly the finest and stay away from the gimmicks. The pet rock was a gimmick, but you see how long it lasted? "New Coke" was another gimmick slapped onto the best soft drink in the world. You remember what happened? These things sell themselves. Why try to gild the lily? Sure, a higher end high end product commands more money, but at what cost? Habanos are already the highest end of the genre. I would appreciate being able to smoke the finest without them trying to make me think there is something better. I guess it is the mindset of the culture. Remember when CA asked what was the best Habanos. And the guy said, "Montescristo." So the guy asked again, to clarify, and the guy said, "Montecristo". So the guy just stopped asking and moved on, clearly understanding that the answer was not going to change.
 

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Remember when CA asked what was the best Habanos. And the guy said, "Montescristo." So the guy asked again, to clarify, and the guy said, "Montecristo". So the guy just stopped asking and moved on, clearly understanding that the answer was not going to change.
well... the guy worked in a cuban cigar factory, too, right? he was someone in the cuban cigar field, that was asked the question...
that was a good story.. one of the few i've read in CA, i think that was in the last issue of my subscription as well.
 

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If my memory serves me right, the reason why the guy based his opinion on Montecristos as No. 1, was based on the amount of sales. Obviously, we have in this individual, a firm belief in Lenin's axiom: "Quantity has a noble quality unique to itself."

Outside of those little nesting dolls, military armament, and some indestructible tea kettles which were knock-offs of an Iranian design, the USSR was neither able to produce in quanity anything, much less anything in quality. (And no, there is no such thing as quality rotgut Russian vodka--vodka is universally rotgut.)
 

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Strong point well made. I feel that a lot of people bit on the Sublimes because it is simply a superlative cigar. The D4's however have the look and feel of marketing hype and as much as I love cigars, I don't see myself springing for a humi.
 
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