Howdy All, Have touted these in the past and with my consistantly pleasurable smoking experiences will continue to do so, and these are the Occidentals, Particularly the Havana Sun Growns. Yet to smoke a bad one. Medium body, good construction , great burn and draw, minimal aftertaste. Not a world beater but a consistantly good honest cigar. Have spent more than twice the per stick cost on other HSG's and felt like for the bucks they are at least the equal of these pricier smokes. They come in on average for about 3 bucks a stick. Incidentally for what it's worth the Occidental HSG Robusto scored a 90 in the last CA. Not bad for a 3 dollar smoke ! Frank B