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Oh, hell no! Over 3 Gs on a time keeper? For 4 Gs I can buy the town clock, and it's in brick not leather. LOL
I have a buddy who runs errands for a guy who owns a classic car shop. Guy makes the big bucks. A week or two ago the guy asks my buddy to drive to NYC and pick a box for him and bring it back, doesn't tell my buddy what he's picking up but he offers my buddy 1,000 to do it plus gas. (Personally I don't think I would've done it, seems pretty sketchy to me). But my buddy did it and he brings back the box, the guy opens up the box and it's this super extravagant watch and he tells my buddy he just bought it in an auction for 24,000 dollars.... my only question is what the hell kinda watch costs 24,000 dollars. The thing better have some sort of portal device in or something like what the hell.

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... But my buddy did it and he brings back the box, the guy opens up the box and it's this super extravagant watch and he tells my buddy he just bought it in an auction for 24,000 dollars.... my only question is what the hell kinda watch costs 24,000 dollars. The thing better have some sort of portal device in or something like what the hell.
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Prices of old Omega Speedmasters (late 60s and earlier) have gone to these heights, and over that. For example, Speedmaster 2998 -1 in good shape, all original will go up to $40K. If it is in pristine shape,collectors and such, you are looking close to $60K. 2998 is somewhat "easy" to find for sale. If you go back even further to something like 2915, you are looking at $70K for good and over $100K for collectors piece. Prices in last 5 years have gone insane on Speedies. 2998 about 5 years ago could have been had for $5K in good shape easily.

And if you think those are crazy, look at old Rolex watches. Those prices will make your head spin. Rolex prices is one of the reasons speedmaster prices skyrocketed. People couldnt afford old Rolex, so they went with speedy. I wouldnt say next best thing as I personally think speedies are better than rolexes, but thats a whole different story :)
 

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Prices of old Omega Speedmasters (late 60s and earlier) have gone to these heights, and over that. For example, Speedmaster 2998 -1 in good shape, all original will go up to $40K. If it is in pristine shape,collectors and such, you are looking close to $60K. 2998 is somewhat "easy" to find for sale. If you go back even further to something like 2915, you are looking at $70K for good and over $100K for collectors piece. Prices in last 5 years have gone insane on Speedies. 2998 about 5 years ago could have been had for $5K in good shape easily.

And if you think those are crazy, look at old Rolex watches. Those prices will make your head spin. Rolex prices is one of the reasons speedmaster prices skyrocketed. People couldnt afford old Rolex, so they went with speedy. I wouldnt say next best thing as I personally think speedies are better than rolexes, but thats a whole different story :)
Haha all I'm saying is at those prices that watch had better transform into a robot that does my taxes and is a professional masseuse.

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Haha all I'm saying is at those prices that watch had better transform into a robot that does my taxes and is a professional masseuse.

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Well, to each their own. My watch doesnt have to do any of the things you mentioned. it just has to outlive me and be in possession of my grandkids one day (if I have any grandkids lol) As long as I do regular 5 year maintenance on my speedy I have, it will do that and so much more. Just like with cigars, some folks will willingly sped $30+ a cigar on something like Davidoff or Padron, while others would never spend that much on a single cigar.
 

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Well, to each their own. My watch doesnt have to do any of the things you men,tioned. it just has to outlive me and be in possession of my grandkids one day (if I have any grandkids lol) As long as I do regular 5 year maintenance on my speedy I have, it will do that and so much more. Just like with cigars, some folks will willingly sped $30+ a cigar on something like Davidoff or Padron, while others would never spend that much on a single cigar.
Amen to that! I love my watches and have many friends who think I'm crazy. There is just something about a mechanical time piece that speaks to me like no other object. The reality is that they aren't very accurate when compared to a $50 quartz digital, but they have a soul. Its like an old Harley or Indian when compared to modern motorcycles. They ride horrible and are a pain to operate, but there is a "soul" in those old mechanical art pieces. I don't even like classic motorcycles, but I can surely appreciate beauty and value in them.

I've spent 10's of thousands on watches, but they give me great pleasure to wear and admire them. To each there own...
 

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Very nice looking watches but those prices are insane. Well, they seem insane since its not my hobby or passion. I have a $75 fossil watch that I think is fancy. Craftsmanship and art come in many different forms.
 

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Amen to that! I love my watches and have many friends who think I'm crazy. There is just something about a mechanical time piece that speaks to me like no other object. The reality is that they aren't very accurate when compared to a $50 quartz digital, but they have a soul. Its like an old Harley or Indian when compared to modern motorcycles. They ride horrible and are a pain to operate, but there is a "soul" in those old mechanical art pieces. I don't even like classic motorcycles, but I can surely appreciate beauty and value in them.

I've spent 10's of thousands on watches, but they give me great pleasure to wear and admire them. To each there own...
Good point.. I have one watch. A six year old Iron Man from Wal-Mart. It hangs off of my safety harness. But I have a buddy that loves watches. I don't understand it but they are some beautiful watches.. He spends thousands on watches but has nothing but RP and Quorum in his humidor...

To each their own.

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I have a buddy who runs errands for a guy who owns a classic car shop. Guy makes the big bucks. A week or two ago the guy asks my buddy to drive to NYC and pick a box for him and bring it back, doesn't tell my buddy what he's picking up but he offers my buddy 1,000 to do it plus gas. (Personally I don't think I would've done it, seems pretty sketchy to me). But my buddy did it and he brings back the box, the guy opens up the box and it's this super extravagant watch and he tells my buddy he just bought it in an auction for 24,000 dollars.... my only question is what the hell kinda watch costs 24,000 dollars. The thing better have some sort of portal device in or something like what the hell.

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Patel Philipe, AP though overpriced for what you get. Giraud Perragaux, Richard Mille. It all depends on demand, precious metal cases and complications but most of the very expensive watches have few in supply and wealthy people are drawn to rarity and beauty. It's more of an art and jewelry thing.

My buddy, the one with an 80+ year old Italian watchmaker father, took in a non functioning 18K El Primero for $2K in gold weight. His dad cleaned and made the movement perfect but Zenith wouldn't sell him the missing pushers for the Chronograph. However, they sent it in and it was $600 for two pushers. However the factories pretty much send the fixed watches looking brand new.

It's like buying a Honda Rebel and being happy with that or buying a Harley Davidson or even kicking up a basic used R6 to something like an Italian Bimota.

When you have money you tend to spend it as you can't take it with you.

Sadly the ones with true quests for wealth generally grew up feeling inadequate in some way and those people can never have enough wealth.

These are trust fund kids or those getting paid well for a good job, trade, occupation.

These are more like moguls. As anybody knows that if you are just a millionaire you can lose it all with one bad turn of fate. Falling off your motorcycle before it's properly insured or worse yet a mistake of drinking and driving and hitting somebody. Basically something insurance can't cover. Getting serious disease where you have to spend months in am ICU. Where it's less expensive to lease out your own hospital and hire your own staff of physicians, specialist and care givers. You can't do that with just a couple million in assets. So they develop a need.

Once you know and accept you can lose everything in a day, you feel released from that burden. It's why you should try to live every day like your last.

I can attest that people joking themselves working out extreme hours and socking it away to enjoy retirement, rarely are happy retired or have the health to do all those things they had planned on.

Send you kids on backpacking trips through the world. Youth is but once. Let them see the world and it's wonder while young. They will acquire skills of language, communication etc.

If you aren't the adventurous person you can always acquire things to fill that void as many of us do that can no longer live the full version of adventure.

These again are my experiences and my thoughts alone. Take them with a grain of sand.

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I have way to many watches. I don’t even wear most of them. They should be sold this year as a beautiful watch needs to be on somebody’s wrist. I bought a Pepsi Ocean GMT from Steinhart. Great ETA 2893-2 movement inside which is a super reliable work horse, but GMTs just don’t excite me as I thought it would. I’ll flip it. I just need to make time.

A few others just like this. Strangely I wear the ceramic Ocean 1, a ton more, until I bought an NTH. That’s been on my wrist almost 99% of the time. The sword hands, the lumped bezel in a 40mm diver with a movement that is tuned up to keep COSC time.

You buy something and use it. That’s how it should be. The rest need to find new owners that people will cherish as much.

I sold most of my pricy watches as I have bought a few Seiko Japanese domestic models, then “hot rodded,” some and the others are rare occasion pieces. Funny enough, the Turtle diver is one of the most comfortable watches to wear. It keeps excellent time, but unless you are prepared to take everything apart buyer beware as the QC at Seiko has been really a crap shoot lately. Even through places like Long Island watches. You would think you shouldn’t have to ask that everything, from dial, chapter ring and bezel be aligned in any watch that costs $500+.

I never even thought about Seiko until I did some background research this year.

Another to sell is the beautiful SARX with midnight blue/black dial. It’s a gorgeous formal watch, but I prefer a 1960s vintage for any rare formal occasion.

Watches are a precious disease you acquire and need to make efforts to cleanse yourself down to 5-6 max. I hold them and can relate to JRR Tolkien’s gollum saying “my precious !”

Like Gollum, I don’t have them on me most of the time, but feel an emptiness when selling them.

I’m sure that pipes will become the same way.

I just sold/donated a collection of depression glass from my mother. Next to go is a full set of bone China from the 1950s. We just don’t use the stuff. My wife has a whole curio filled with individual tea cups collected over a life time. At least their beautiful floral patterns can remind me that Winter will eventually end. A cyclical thing, much like collecting.


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A lot of good points on both sides of the coin. I personally never bought a watch as a collectors thing. If I buy something, I buy it to use it, not to sit there and collect dust. Of course I say this as none of my watches are in collectors shape, and worth 10's of thousands. Maybe if I owned one of the Speedies I mentioned above in pristine shape I would rethink my thoughts. You put a ding on one of those, well there goes $10K
 

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A lot of good points on both sides of the coin. I personally never bought a watch as a collectors thing. If I buy something, I buy it to use it, not to sit there and collect dust. Of course I say this as none of my watches are in collectors shape, and worth 10's of thousands. Maybe if I owned one of the Speedies I mentioned above in pristine shape I would rethink my thoughts. You put a ding on one of those, well there goes $10K
Agreed, I do not collect watches or anything for that matter. A watch for me has to be used or it gets sold. The only expection to that are watches that were gifts from my wife.
 

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I know I'm a little late to the party (typical Miami behavior sorry) but if you are looking for a really nice quality automatic with excellent ETA 2824-2 movement take a look at some Steinhart watches, most much less than $1000.
 

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I know I'm a little late to the party (typical Miami behavior sorry) but if you are looking for a really nice quality automatic with excellent ETA 2824-2 movement take a look at some Steinhart watches, most much less than $1000.
I have a couple of Steinies. I love them. They now have 39mm for those who don't do well with the 42mm lineup. Their premium line and GMT's run off the excellent ETA 2892-2 or 2893-2 base. Much like Squale but a bit less in the pocketbook and more widely available.

Still the Seiko divers run on a nice automatic movement that can be adjusted to have similar timekeeping. It's much about preference and that Seiko send watches out that are misaligned all too often. Knowing or having somebody that can disassemble and put back everything right makes them a better option.

I love my Swiss watches, but never realized how comfortable a Seiko Turtle is and how easily it's able to modified. I'll put in a Lumed Ceramic Bezel Insert soon. I put on a coin edged bezel and a domed sapphire crystal with laser etched sea turtle on top inside of the dome.

Hot-rodding a inexpensive diver is a blast and it's so comfortable to wear. I'm sure YMMV on that part.

It certainly isn't at all dressy but made for using in the water and such.

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