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Ole Crusty Spiked Fish
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Got seized and Homeland Security left a kind letter in the box.

Now what?

Does anybody know if the Fail of Sale people guarantee their shipments or am I out the cash?
 

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Ole Crusty Spiked Fish
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The letter had a stamp on it with a Homeland Security seal. It looked like one that had been photocopied over and over again. The green tape said U.S. Customs.

Pretty discouraging
 

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Wow, that's scary as hell, especially since I have some boxes en route... I feel for ya bud. Hopefully, the retailer will work with you
 

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This reminds me of the time a buddy sent me some beer from CO and used the USPS for delivery.
A bottle broke. The case was confiscated
I got a letter of seisure (sp)
I went to the PO
They were telling me about all the fines I could be responsible for...
I aksed how I could be held responsible for what someone sent to me.
They backed down..
The postmaster later appologized
He said the only way I could be responsible was if I sent them
to myself.
I suspect that customs letter is the same thing.
 

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THE MAN WHO LOVES TWANG!
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Customs letter means nothing you have 30 days to dispute. If you don't they keep the cigars. They need their Christmas stogies too. The OFAC letter is the one you gotta look out for. I don't know if that vendor Guarantees delivery i have never used them. With all the recent threads about them here and on other forums. It does not surprise me in the least that package's are being seized. Might be like it was some years back for Hong Kong but you guys are to young to remember that.
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I think he's referring to a a bunch of people getting letters after using a vendor from HK a few years back. That happened before this was called puff.com, so I'm not sure if it's in the archives or not...I think most of that stuff migrated over...

If you're ever feeling like you need to slow down on ordering but just can't seem to stop, dig up some of those threads if possible...they might slow you down a bit.
 

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THE MAN WHO LOVES TWANG!
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I think he's referring to a a bunch of people getting letters after using a vendor from HK a few years back. That happened before this was called puff.com, so I'm not sure if it's in the archives or not...I think most of that stuff migrated over...

If you're ever feeling like you need to slow down on ordering but just can't seem to stop, dig up some of those threads if possible...they might slow you down a bit.
Amen my brother Amen!

Letter from OFAC couldn't find the one like the one i got years back but this is similar. This is the one they use for traveling to Cuba without permission. The other letter is for cigars or rather any other Cuban goods. No joke a grand $1,000 for the lawyer $550 for the fine. You guys are new to this so you post pictures of cigar orders. Then post threads about long waits from vendors. You bring heat to yourself s and everyone else with your actions.

The Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") administers a comprehensive trade embargo against Cuba as set forth in the Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. Part 515 (the "Regulations"). Section 515.201(b) of the Regulations prohibits all unauthorized travel-related transactions with respect to Cuba by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Travel-related transactions may be authorized only through general or specific licenses issued by OFAC. Violations of Regulations may result in civil and/or criminal penalties.
OFAC has received information indicating that you traveled to Cuba during March of 2007. This Office has no record that a specific license was issued authorizing you to engage in travel-related transactions involving Cuba. OFAC has information indicating that you claimed to qualify under the provision for general license for full-time journalists. An application dated October 12, 2006 was submitted by Coldflat Productions, which included you, but no determination had been made by OFAC. OFAC Enforcement is conducting a civil investigation for possible unlicensed transactions under the Regulations surrounding your alleged trip to Cuba. The information you provide in response to this letter may serve as the basis of further civil enforcement action by OFAC.
Pursuant to section 501.602 of the Reporting, Procedures and Penalties Regulations, 31 CFR Part 501, you are hereby required to provide this Office with a detailed written report concerning your alleged trip to Cuba. Your report must specifically respond to all the items enumerated below.
1. Provide your dates of travel (include date and point of departure from the U.S., third country stopover points, date of arrival in and departure from Cuba and date of return to the U.S.).
2. Provide the reason for your trip to Cuba and your itinerary within Cuba.
3. If you claim that your trip to Cuba qualifies for a general license for journalistic activities, provide the following:
a. Evidence that you are regularly employed as a journalist by a news reporting organization or;
b. Evidence that you are regularly employed as a supporting or technical personnel by a news reporting organization.
4. State the cost of your airline or ocean vessel tickets and the name of the individual or entity that paid for each ticket (provide a copy of each ticket receipt).
5. Provide the name and address of any travel agency that you used to arrange travel to Cuba, the service each agency provided to you and the amount you paid to each agency (provide a copy o f receipts).
6. Provide the name and location of hotel(s) or other place(s) where you stayed while in Cuba and the amount you paid (include method of payment and receipts).
7. For each individual who was part of this trip, provide their name, address and purpose for participation..
8. Provide any additional information which you may wish OFAC to consider concerning your trip to Cuba.
Your report is due at OFAC within 20 business days from the reciept of this letter and should be addressed as follows:
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Office of Foreign Assets Control
Attn: John Dickie
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. (Annex)
Washington, D.C. 20220
You should be aware that failure to respond to this letter may result in the imposition of civil penalties by OFAC. If you have any questions, please call Mr. Dickie at (202) 622-2430
Sincerely,
SIGNATURE
Dale Thompson, Chief
General Investigations & Field Operations
Office of Foreign Assets Control
 

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I think he's referring to a a bunch of people getting letters after using a vendor from HK a few years back. That happened before this was called puff.com, so I'm not sure if it's in the archives or not...I think most of that stuff migrated over...

If you're ever feeling like you need to slow down on ordering but just can't seem to stop, dig up some of those threads if possible...they might slow you down a bit.
Amen my brother Amen!

Letter from OFAC couldn't find the one like the one i got years back but this is similar. This is the one they use for traveling to Cuba without permission. The other letter is for cigars or rather any other Cuban goods. No joke a grand $1,000 for the lawyer $550 for the fine. You guys are new to this so you post pictures of cigar orders. Then post threads about long waits from vendors. You bring heat to yourself s and everyone else with your actions.

I think someone already said it but I'll say it again---Amen my brother Amen!
 

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No question that confiscations are up significantly. Common sense tells me that this has nothing to do with postings on an internet board and everything to do with the bomb they found in a package of toner ... a week or two before confiscations went through the roof.

Collateral damage. The net got a lot bigger and a lot of little fishies are getting caught.
 

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Ole Crusty Spiked Fish
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You guys are new to this so you post pictures of cigar orders. Then post threads about long waits from vendors. You bring heat to yourself s and everyone else with your actions.
I am not sure if you are referring to me when you say "you guys" but I have never once posted a pic of any order, I have also never complained about long waits from vendors and I very rarely post anything in this section. The only reason I produced this post was to politely give people a heads up on the reality of life.
 

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I am not sure if you are referring to me when you say "you guys" but I have never once posted a pic of any order, I have also never complained about long waits from vendors and I very rarely post anything in this section. The only reason I produced this post was to politely give people a heads up on the reality of life.
In no way was I speaking of you but of many like Tony referred too. Don't take it personal and I understand your having a bad day because of this, Like Tony said "members" here are putting to much info up that only draws flies if you know what I mean.
 

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THE MAN WHO LOVES TWANG!
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No question that confiscations are up significantly. Common sense tells me that this has nothing to do with postings on an internet board and everything to do with the bomb they found in a package of toner ... a week or two before confiscations went through the roof.

Collateral damage. The net got a lot bigger and a lot of little fishies are getting caught.
Could be maybe possibly i dunno. What i do know is its happening just like it did not so long ago. They know whats in those boxes before they open them.
First off they say cigars on the declaration sheet 2nd off they x-ray the box 3rd all the vendors from Hong Kong moved somewhere else. You can run but you can't hide. Is the forum the sole reason for this of course not. Its spoken about though on many forums. Stay stateside for a while till the smoke blows over.
 

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No question that confiscations are up significantly. Common sense tells me that this has nothing to do with postings on an internet board and everything to do with the bomb they found in a package of toner ... a week or two before confiscations went through the roof.

Collateral damage. The net got a lot bigger and a lot of little fishies are getting caught.
Good point Rodeo--- this in fact can be one of the reasons this is happening along with many others when it comes to Homeland Security.
 

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Well this is def not an encouraging thread for me as I have about six boxes in the air and on the way to me. My vendor guarantees delivery, but that would be the least of my worries if I were to get what you received in the mail today.

Sorry about your luck. I'd just leave the letter go, let them claim your package. Email a copy of the letter to your vendor and inform them of the issue. More than likely they will send you a replacement order or refund your money. Best of luck.
 

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THE MAN WHO LOVES TWANG!
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In no way was I speaking of you but of many like Tony referred too. Don't take it personal and I understand your having a bad day because of this, Like Tony said "members" here are putting to much info up that only draws flies if you know what I mean.
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