Actually Jack, he's referring to a knock-off called Dopont. They look very similar, but of course the quality won't be the same. They run about 30 bucks or so. I have to admit, from the pictures, they look pretty similar to the actual Dupont I have worth 20 times the amount. Being that the Dopont is a flint and butane, I wouldn't expect any problems with it. Since I've already put one dent in my Dupont, I think a Dopont might be a good idea. LOL Heck, for the price, I may just get one and find out :w