I have never frozen any cigars I have ever purchased. I guess the reason I don't is due to the fact that I do not have access to a device that will reach <-20 degree temps that will kill the larvae and that my wife always has our freezer jam pack full of sh*t we don't eat...
On a serious note, If I had an armoire I would probably find a place to freeze my smokes since they would be buried amongst several other boxes and would not be rotated but a few times a year. Since I only use 1 300ct desktop and 1 100ct desktop I tend to be fanatical about rotating and inspecting my smokes on a bi-weekly basis.
Like pds stated below, I would only keep and freeze an extremely rare or expensive cigar if it had signs of beetle damage. If the smoke(s) are readily available by my vendor I would just toss the damaged smoke(s) to be on the safe side.
Poker, I hope you are going to give us some suggestions after this poll has run its course...
I freeze almost everything. I don't like to take any chances with the Atlanta summers. I haven't had a single complaint from folks saying my cigars don't taste right... from new cigars to 20 year old cigars.
BTW... I once gave some cigars to friends (folks who know good cigars) that were several days out of the freezer, just out of curiosity. They commented that they were some of the best cigars they've had in a while:w Many folks would argue that frozen cigars don't taste right, but I personally can't detect any difference in flavor.
Many folks also say that you must SLOWLY expose cigars to freezer temps, as well as thaw them out. Most every cigar I have has gone straight from the freezer to room temp, then back in the coolers. I haven't had any problems with cracked wrappers due to freezing.
Personally, I think cigars are much less fragile than folks think they are.
I used to freeze everthing!!! I used a 100 count humi that I would put all incoming into when I was getting 5 packs at a time!!! I would wait till it was full then I would freeze Then move them to a 300 count Humi. But then came the Habanos sickness :r and I was ordering faster then I could freeze or had space for (2) 100 count Humi's Frozen "full" (1) 300 count Humi Frozen "full" Then came the wine fridge & I don't freeze anymore I have sat down and smoked two cigars back to back one frozen and one not both out of the same box I could not taste a dif!!! So at this point I would not freeze unless I had to
short answer: i don't freeze anymore... but i quarantine new arrivals for about 6 weeks in a cooler, and i check those cigars frequently.
additional details: i used to freeze... we have a freezer chest in the basement ... but i couldn't figure out the optimal strategy for leaving cigars out to smoke. it was like this... do i leave one to smoke and freeze the rest? but what if i love them and want another... ok, so leave 2 out and freeze the rest... but what do i do with the ones i leave out so they don't contaminate the others. so if i quarantine one, i might as well quarantine them all- that way the optimal rule is leave them all out. this is what it's like to be me... scary huh? so far so good, with no beetles in sight. did i win?
I don't freeze, unless there is a good reason. My humi stays below 71¼, but it is hard on the A/C. I'm soon going to a temp controlled Crapperdor, but that's a big project and will take some time. When I get there, I will not freeze since everything will be a steady 65/65¼.
can someone please explain the process of 'quarentining' in the freezer? freeze in bags? right in the box? i noticed someone said few days in freezer, to the fridge and then the humi. i think with a recent incident i had i might want to consider this, but also want to do it correctly and not jeopardize any sticks.
No matter where you place your cigars to freeze they need to be in an airtight baggie.
I bought special large size thick film ziplock type bags from a plastic sales company.
If you dont want to place the whole box of cigars in the freezer as you don't have a bag large enough. Just take the cigars out of the box and put them in regular freezer baggies. Make sure that you freeze the empty box also. Beetles can lay eggs in the box, so if you don't freeze the box you are just going to have problems later when you put the cigars back.
Barry and CigarTexan addressed something I negleted on my first post concerning air-conditioning. My house never gets above 73-74 degree's year round so the humi's are usually sit at around 68 (winter) to 71.5 degree's (on the hottest days).
No my friend, this was not the "suprise" I spoke of. It was just something that came to mind & I thought it would be interesting to see the responses considering summer is in full swing.
I remember the big debate over freezing or not a while back concerned the issue that the cigars tasted different for some reason.
I also remember taking part in a taste test that someone conducted to see if folks really could tell which cigar was frozen vs not frozen (from the same box) useing 4 different vitolas. Not one person out of 10 tested guessed correctly if my memory serves me right.
I never freeze and like Dave, I quarantine new arrivals for 6 - 8 weeks in a coolerador. I buy from the same sources and have never had a beetle problem.
I keep my humidors at 66 - 70 degree's at 65% humidity year round.
That being said, the worst time I've had is when traveling with cigars. This past spring on a cruise I came back with some singles from LCDH and 2 of them were part of a birthday present for Matt. The ones for me were smoked within a couple of weeks, the ones for Matt were given to him the next weekend. I forgot about how hot it could gt during travel on the ship, sitting at customs on the dock and then on the airplane. Needless to say, both of the smokes for Matt hatched after he received them. Case in point, even though I am very proactive in caring for my smokes, beetles happen and can't be avoided.
Yes and No..
I freeze all the gars I recieve in a commercial freezer for "standard Procedure" I then send them through 2 stages of humidification to ensure no returns from the dreaded beetle that may show up rarely.
This also help avoid the rare complaint of over humidified cigars.
Of course I am a distributor, and I do this to save myself issues.
The onesy twosey type gifts and trades dont get frozen but they do go in a "Designated Humidor"
Just want to be carefull.
I have yet to see a beetle here, except the ones that people have sent me by sending a few smokes slowly in the summertime.
Ohh ANd the ones I have been requested to send as "gifts" to nice guys....!
There are easy to look for indicators that I go by, you all know them. Dust in the bag etc..
I freeze everything. I just can't live with the possibility of those buggers hatching on me and munching away at the sticks. For me it buys peace of mind, especially since I can't tell the difference after three months in the humi.
Relatively new, so padron my ignorance, but what are the odds of having beetles? I haven't taken such precautions in the two years I have been keeping my humidor filled and this thread is giving me the creeps. Is it common to have beetle problems?