Fellow Apes, thought this thread heading might get your attention. Actually this is more about committment. When you start ascending the slippery slope one of the things you notice is the time committment that you have to make,... it takes a awhile out of your day to smoke a good cigar. You basically have to put the everyday concerns of your life on the back burner, at the same time the experience provides the time to reflect on whatever is important to us. Considering that I started smoking cigars as a purely hedonistic experience it came as a bit of a revelation about what the time I spent indulging my hobby actually meant to me. Havent cured cancer or arrived at a solution to peace in the Middle East but I havent gone Postal either. Frank B