I know the ownership is the same, but the quality isn't the same.A cigar from CI is almost wet and cbid has to rest for 3-4 day.I quess you get what you pay for ,I'm more likely to get a dud from CBid,almost like leftovers,fourthdown merchandise.you shouldn't give a reveiw from a cigar off of Cbid unless it's had the rest that is needed.