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Acceptable Storage?

1.7K views 14 replies 10 participants last post by  shannensmall  
#1 ·
I started smoking 1-2 cigars a week over the last few months and haven't really needed any long term storage. I've been putting the cigars that I'm waiting to smoke in my wine cooler inside of a ziplock bag with a humidipak. The wine cooler is about 58 degrees. So far so good, but no cigar has needed to be there for more than 4 or 5 days before . I was wondering if it's ok to leave my smokes in there longer? Can I get a few weeks or even months out of this?


No humidor yet because I think if I buy a "starter" it'll just get replaced with something of higher quality in due time.
 
#2 ·
I'm no expert but I did stay in a holiday inn......... I think that long term storage(more than a week) in a ziplok with the humipack will leave your smokes over humidified. If you can steal a tupperware container and use that with the humipak I think that you will be better off. The small confined space of the ziplock doesn't give give you much room for the humidity to go other than into your sticks and an overhumidified stick will burn all jacked up and will not have the best flavor profile.
 
#5 ·
With a temp of 58 deg., I doubt that the humipac will over humidify your cigars. At that temp, I doubt if your even at 60% RH inside the bag. Temperature has a direct effect on RH. The lower the temp is, the lower the RH will be.
 
#8 ·
If you are planning on storing your cigars for a few weeks or a month in a wine cooler as stated in your original post you will need some type of device (beads, litter, humi-pack etc)to keep your cigars at a 60-70% RH. Now if you are fortunate to live somewhere where your ambient RH is constantly in the 60-70% range you are good, you're in an acceptable range for storing your cigars. If your wine cooler uses compressor instead of thermoelectric cooling than your cooler will pull moisture out of your cigars. Hope that helps.
 
#9 ·
the lower the temperature the higher the humidity. why a cooling coil condenses water is because the low air air temp. cannot hold any more moisture. a fridge or wine cooler at a temp. of about 50F has a hight relative humidity, capable of storing cigars. odor is a different issure. however, owning a humidor is a big part of the cigar expierence.
 
#10 ·
the lower the temperature the higher the humidity. why a cooling coil condenses water is because the low air air temp. cannot hold any more moisture. a fridge or wine cooler at a temp. of about 50F has a hight relative humidity, capable of storing cigars. odor is a different issure. however, owning a humidor is a big part of the cigar expierence.
False.

I don't know enough to answer you're question. But I know enough to warn you not to listen to this.

(Which is why food dries out if left uncovered in the fridge.)
 
#11 ·
False.

I don't know enough to answer you're question. But I know enough to warn you not to listen to this.

(Which is why food dries out if left uncovered in the fridge.)
Nate G,
Please refer to a Psychrometric chart and note, 75 degree air with 30 grains of moisture has a 11% relative humidity. 40degree air with 30 grains of moisture has a relative humidity of 80%. cooler air is less capable of holding moisture than warm air, resulting in a high relative humidity.
But you were right about one thing, you don't know enough to answer the question.
Food dries out in the fridge because its too old!!!
 
#12 ·
The RH in a fridge isn't JUST a factor of the temp, a compressor based system actively removes moisture from the air (at least that is my understanding of it). So a regular compressor-based fridge will have lower humidity than a box that's simply cold (or cooled thermoelectrically) at the same temp.

Right? :)
 
#13 ·
The RH in a fridge isn't JUST a factor of the temp, a compressor based system actively removes moisture from the air (at least that is my understanding of it). So a regular compressor-based fridge will have lower humidity than a box that's simply cold (or cooled thermoelectrically) at the same temp.

Right? :)
Give that man a cigar.....
 
#14 ·
Give that man a cigar.....
Lets not make this more complicated than it is. Read the chart, study the properities of air at different temperatures, it dosen't lie. The only way to remove water from air is to cool the air to a saturation point, than reheat that air. STUDY THE CHART.
The smart thing to do is to measure the humidity in the fridge with a Psychrometer, now there's a novel idear!!!
 
#15 ·
False.

I don't know enough to answer you're question. But I know enough to warn you not to listen to this.

(Which is why food dries out if left uncovered in the fridge.)
Actually food dries out in the fridge because the compressor (as has been mentioned before) will lower the RH in the fridge.

Shorty is right on this one.

But I digress, Like Herf has said, IF you are only pulling a stick out of the bag 1-2 times a month, you really don't need any more humidification other than the sticks. Provided A: The cigars were properly humidified to begin with and B: The bag you seal them in is really sealed and has 0 leaks. Now, with that said, if I were you and IF I spent more than just a couple of bucks on some elcheapo cigars, it's worth the extra piece of mind to go the tupper ware w/bead rout. It's too inexpensive not to.

To answer your question about what the tupperware needs. Bead, cigars and some strips of Spanish cedar. Viola.

crap... I need to check post dates before gettting on a soap box. :bolt: