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07-31-2012 10:57 AM
Avenidadecuba
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

Ok, i was way off! Hahah, but that wasn't my point. My point was that there are other factors to health, like how we eat that are just as important if not moreso than smoking.

The smoking rate among adults was 29% in 2008, 43% of men and 13% of women. (Japan)

Still pretty darn high.
07-31-2012 03:15 AM
Shemp75
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

only cigarillos that i smoke now and then are those dry cured toscanos. strong but tasty
07-31-2012 03:03 AM
Eleigh
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

I have already extolled the virtues of the af exquisite in another thread.for me they are imply another viola.
07-30-2012 11:40 PM
sweater88
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

PM Ron and get yourself a couple of boxes of the RSS coronas....partagas shorts are a suprisingly fantastic, affordable smoke too, and don't need the rest that other cc's do.
07-30-2012 10:19 PM
Cigar Noob
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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Not to mention the Japanese. 80 some odd percent of them smoke cigarettes, but their average lifespan is 10 years longer than ours. Around there.
I think 20-30% would be a more accurate guess. They live longer because they have a completely different lifestyle (not obese).

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Native Americans were smoking the leaf for thousands of years with no additives, good enough for me! Better than half the food we eat, IMHO.
They also didn't inhale, didn't wrap in bleached paper, and didn't reconstitute tobacco. Would consider the products yours comparing to be equals.
07-30-2012 04:14 PM
Avenidadecuba
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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I hear you loud and clear!!!!

Keeping them away from kids -- great! Keeping them away from adults??? WTF is that all about?

I got a carton of American Spirits on my trip to Florida (where the local legislature is somewhat sane about taxation) and I am not at all worried about inhaling REAL tobacco in a moderate quantity (a few cigs a day). Native Americans were smoking the leaf for thousands of years with no additives, good enough for me! Better than half the food we eat, IMHO.
Not to mention the Japanese. 80 some odd percent of them smoke cigarettes, but their average lifespan is 10 years longer than ours. Around there.
07-30-2012 12:59 PM
Avenidadecuba
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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I looked into cigars when I finally had enough of cigarettes. Including the social stigma. Regardless I found some opinions that matched yours. ( the actual amount of ingested nico is worse ) and some others actually reporting the amount is " little to nothing" .
I think a big part of why you're body gets much more addicted to the nico on cigs is not because it has more. A big part of it is due the regular and steady intake into your body. When you smoke a pack a day, you are smoking 1.6 cigarettes an hour. Say you smoke a couple of cigars at the end of the night, you still went an entire day without any intake of nicotine.

The regularity and intervals between consumption make a big difference IMO.

I obviously agree that cigars are much better for you in every way, but even if they weren't, that's not my reason for smoking them.
07-30-2012 11:36 AM
JPjr
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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I was finding it hard to find 2 hours to smoke a robusto sized cigar so I ordered a bunch of cigarillos and some short story sized cigars. I don't think it's an addiction... It's more like smart time utilization.
+1 to Greg S. It's more about time for me, and wouldn't pass on a cigarillo if the alternative was having none at all.
07-30-2012 10:42 AM
AndrewNYC
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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I agree, I don't smoke cigars for the nicotine, I smoke them for the flavors and time to relax/wind down. It's a shame that most politicians do not understand the differences, or refuse to see them. They have a personal vendetta against a legal product. Either make it illegal, or let us be in peace. Of course they will never do that, because they know they can tax the crap out of them on our dime. Hell, they should love us! We're "supposedly" helping sick children with the S-Chip, but who knows where that money goes and how it is spent. That's a topic for another forum, sorry!
I hear you loud and clear!!!!

Keeping them away from kids -- great! Keeping them away from adults??? WTF is that all about?

I got a carton of American Spirits on my trip to Florida (where the local legislature is somewhat sane about taxation) and I am not at all worried about inhaling REAL tobacco in a moderate quantity (a few cigs a day). Native Americans were smoking the leaf for thousands of years with no additives, good enough for me! Better than half the food we eat, IMHO.
07-30-2012 06:54 AM
Bondo 440
Re: Let's talk about cigarillos, shall we?

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While the nicotine rush is different, I still believe that with a cigar you get just as much if not more. The difference is that it's absorbed more slowly
I looked into cigars when I finally had enough of cigarettes. Including the social stigma. Regardless I found some opinions that matched yours. ( the actual amount of ingested nico is worse ) and some others actually reporting the amount is " little to nothing" .

I'm too new to post links yet but if you look into how nicotine works. Nicotine creates additional receptors, the more nicotine you ingest, the more you need. The typical cigarette smoker nicotine dose lasts about 90 minutes. Now since I switched to cigars I have not been out of breath, and I can go a full day without smoking without having a "nic attack" . That tells me alone, from my own body, proof I am taking in less nicotine. Results form other cigar affectionados may vary. If someone is smoking a two hour Churchill a day, all I can say is two hours a day of eating ice cream or big macs or even 2 hours of watching David Hasselhoff probably isn't any good for you either.

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Smoking a cigarette was a nice little break from things. Cigars are not a break from things, they are time to enjoy something. It's the difference between eating a snack and eating a hearty/healthy meal. You feel satisfied.
Well said there I must agree !
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