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Re: Pipe FAQ/101/Getting Started

Okay, a couple pictures:





I usually use the Bacardi 151, but this time I decided to use the Elijah - the pipe just seemed to warrant it!

I'll take another pic this evening with the saturated salt. That second pic is after adding the alcohol.

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after soaking - it took about 15 pipe cleaners to run a clean one thru the stem!!!


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Dating Peterson Silver Mounted Pipes.

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All Peterson Silver Mounted Pipes carry three distinctive marks :

1) The Symbol Hibernia (Ireland) denoting the country of origin.
2) .925 is a new European standard mark denoting the high quality (purity) of the silver used.
3) The Date Letter Code for the year in which the silver was hallmarked and the pipe made.
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An image of silver hallmarks.
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More on Flakes:

As a follow-up to the thread found here, this is an article on rubbing out flakes. Not anything new or dramatic, but someone, somewhere, at one time or another will ask about it.

From McClelland Tobacco Company;
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A PIPE SMOKERíS GUIDE
HOW TO SMOKE FLAKE TOBACCOS

English and Scottish-style Matured Virginia flake tobaccos are among the most interesting and rewarding for the smoker to taste; yet, they are avoided by many smokers who simply do not know how to approach them. This guide is intended to help the pipe smoker learn how to fully appreciate the zesty character and subtle sweetness of these premium, aged products. (It should also help smokers of the flavored American sliced plug and European flake Cavendish tobaccos.)
One reason flake tobaccos are left in slices after cake-maturing is that they retain their freshness better than in ribbon form. Flakes also enable the smoker to have some control over the burning rate and, to a small degree, the flavor.
It is important to prepare the tobacco before packing so that it has an even texture and to fill the bowl evenly, no matter what degree of brokenness is preferred. (The more fully-rubbed Ė meaning gently separated Ė a tobacco, the faster it will burn. Similarly, it is true that the thinner the cut, the faster it will burn.)
The more moist tobaccos should be packed more loosely than normal so they wonít pack down densely enough to prevent a good draft. The ideal is to have the tobacco draw firmly, with a little resistance, throughout the smoke. The smoker may be able barely to hear a little hissing through the pipe as it is smoked. Too firm and the tobacco wonít burn at all or one small spot will burn hot and maybe wet as the smoker puffs hard to keep it going; too loose and the tobacco will burn inconsistently and unevenly, perhaps causing the bowl to overheat in spots and moisture to condense.

Five Steps to Success

1. Put in the palm of one hand the amount of tobacco that it is believed will fill the bowl. Then pinch at the slices or rub them between the palms until the tobacco separates to the degree preferred, keeping the texture even, avoiding clumps. The denser the tobacco is left, the slower it will burn. (This becomes especially valuable on windy days outdoors.)

2. Gently but firmly and evenly work the tobacco into the bowl of the pipe until it is filled slightly over the top and feels firm but still springy under enough finger pressure to flatten the surface of the tobacco even with the top of the pipe. (We assume the pipe is clean at the outset, free of obstruction to a good draft, well rested.)


3. Now, while drawing through the stem, light the pipe evenly across the entire surface of the tobacco. After a few puffs to develop an ash, and while continuing to draw, tamp the tobacco down evenly all around the bowl with a tamper. The goal is to have the tobacco packed so that it will burn as evenly and firmly as a good cigar.

4. Relight the pipe after tamping to get the entire surface of the tobacco burning again. Even burning is very important. Otherwise, hot spots may develop.

5. With only occasional tamping as the tobacco burns down, since it tends to expand and loosen as it burns, the pipe should now smoke evenly to the bottom. The aim is to maintain a firm, even draft throughout the smoke. The process is not difficult to master and with practice will soon be effortless.

Flavor Expectations

For those who are used to the ďaromaticĒ or sweetened tobaccos that dominate our market in the United States, it may take some time for the flavorings remaining in the pipe to dissipate. Many smokers prefer to maintain one set of pipes exclusively for the natural, matured tobaccos and another for the sweetened varieties. It may be necessary to smoke up to four ounces of a natural product before the mouth adjusts to the clean taste and subtler range of flavors typical of these Matured Virginia tobaccos. The smoker is rewarded for the effort by becoming able to distinguish the delicate variations in taste and deepening richness these tobaccos develop as they are smoked.

Take the time to enjoy the taste of McClelland.
As an aside, McClelland VAs are very highly regarded, an opinion which I personally agree with.


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Re: Pipe FAQ/101/Getting Started

Ok, I have pipe tobacco, i have a pipe.

I went to the Cigg. store and bought a pipe, i was gonna get a corncob, but found some that looked a lot better for the same price. I dont know what its made of, but kinda "painted" to look like wood. it has metal in/as the bowl of it.
since it has metal as the bowl of it, does that mean its not going to need breaking in? that was the assumption i made.

I was trying out some of the China Black "whiskey" that I have. It felt kind of damp to the touch. ive read that it should not be too wet, heard like 30% somewhere. I put it in the pipe as suggested, but could not get it to stay lit for anything. i would light it, and it would go out as soon as i would stop smoking on it for a second.

While it was lit, it was ok. just trying to figure out why it would not stay lit.
When i was smoking it, i could hear air "whistling" through it, does that mean it was not packed in tight enough?

Just trying to figure this out so i can enjoy it with out a whole lot of trouble

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Re: Pipe FAQ/101/Getting Started

let the tobacco dry out before packing it, 20 minutes or so.

I Think the whislte sound is gurgle? from the juicy steamy tobacco.

Aromatics my not be the greatest place to start, as the burn scalding hot (usauly) and are so wet (usualy)


If you really want to give "pipe" a shot, I think you may have to make a small investment in a good pipe. I bought 2 estate pipes from ebay, $30 to my door. read up on how to clean them, and how to pack them and all the different tobaccos. And have been very happy. think I got pipe packing down, just takes practice.

I used to smoke pipe long time ago, had a cheapy pipe from the tinderbox along with their aromatic crap tobacco -stuff was like a blowtorch to the tounge- and would never stay lit. as a side note, I used to smoke their $1 and $2 dollar cigars also ........ u

then found club stogie, and that the more expensive cigars tasted better.. who would of thought???

I am Enjoying the cool burning and quite flavourfull english blends right now, and a really nice aromatic, macbarens vanilla cream, yum!

Well thats my take, and for the record I am a pipe noob.
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Ok, I have pipe tobacco, i have a pipe.

I went to the Cigg. store and bought a pipe, i was gonna get a corncob, but found some that looked a lot better for the same price. I dont know what its made of, but kinda "painted" to look like wood. it has metal in/as the bowl of it.
since it has metal as the bowl of it, does that mean its not going to need breaking in? that was the assumption i made. Not really sure of a metal pipe bowl. Sounds like it would get kinda hot. Might want to reconsider a cob.(Pics would be cool!)

I was trying out some of the China Black "whiskey" that I have. It felt kind of damp to the touch. ive read that it should not be too wet, heard like 30% somewhere. I put it in the pipe as suggested, but could not get it to stay lit for anything. i would light it, and it would go out as soon as i would stop smoking on it for a second. Mr C.'s right...let the tobacco dry out. In my limited expirence, the dryer tobacco is, the less trouble I have keeping it lit. It doesn't affect the flavor as much as it does with cigars. Also helps eliminate the nasty "gurgles". My biggest problem to date is that I wasn't packing it in tight enough and my pace was too slow, (overdoing what everyone says to do). Try a variety of packing methods, (thirds, quarters, Frank; all can be found somewhere in this forum.)

While it was lit, it was ok. just trying to figure out why it would not stay lit.
When i was smoking it, i could hear air "whistling" through it, does that mean it was not packed in tight enough? Probably.

Just trying to figure this out so i can enjoy it with out a whole lot of trouble.

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Ok,so from my understanding (a)tobacco was too moist, and (b) It was not packed good enough. Right?

I was going to put a picture up yesterday, but the batteries were dead, so here it is today. (nothing to brag about, im just curious about the metal bowl.)

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Ok,so from my understanding (a)tobacco was too moist, and (b) It was not packed good enough. Right?

Lets find out; Take whatever blend you tried and leave enough to fill the bowl out to dry for 30 minutes or so. Pack it the way you normally do and smoke it.

OR

you could take the same moist tobacco and try packing it a little tighter. (probably lead to alot of gurgle and unsmoked tobacco, though.) There should be some noticable resistance when you test draw, but not enough to suck your eyeballs into your skull, ("like water through a straw" is the popular analogy).

OR

You could dry the tobacco out AND pack it a little tighter, but you won't know which one contributed to a longer burn if it occurs.

Sometimes it just works out that you'll use 3 or 4 matches for the entire bowl, if that. Other times, you'll need more.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a total newb too.
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Lets find out; Take whatever blend you tried and leave enough to fill the bowl out to dry for 30 minutes or so. Pack it the way you normally do and smoke it.

OR

you could take the same moist tobacco and try packing it a little tighter. (probably lead to alot of gurgle and unsmoked tobacco, though.) There should be some noticable resistance when you test draw, but not enough to suck your eyeballs into your skull, ("like water through a straw" is the popular analogy).

OR

You could dry the tobacco out AND pack it a little tighter, but you won't know which one contributed to a longer burn if it occurs.

Sometimes it just works out that you'll use 3 or 4 matches for the entire bowl, if that. Other times, you'll need more.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a total newb too.
I found out the problem (at least for the min.)
The problem lies in the pipe, not the user (other than being an idiot and not thinking of it)
The stem was not connecting airtight with the bowl. so all this whistling ive been hearing was from the air around the stem, not through the baccy.
So, lets try this again without any more dumba$$ noob mistakes if possible...
Thanks for the help Scott. Even though you forgot to mention the possibility of the entire problem being "user is a moron"


EDIT...after a few min of fooling with this POS, burning my tounge, and trying to find the right twist of stem to get air....ive decided its simply a case of get what you pay for...im gonna find a clay pipe if i can. something simple that i can see if i like it or not.

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