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post #11 of 15 Old 11-02-2009, 09:39 AM
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Re: Cuban Double Standard

The OP hits on an interesting point.

The Chinese have the worst record on human rights violations of any country on earth. They purposely keep their currency undervalued in order to tie up import markets. Dumping cheap goods into first world countries erodes their labor forces and manufacturing resources. They are intentionally creating a dependency and at the same time, buying up the debts of these nations. Now that the Fed has just doubled the currency supply, the chinese are no longer interested in our debt. This means we will be forced to repay what they now own, both of which will devalue the dollar to the point where it will no longer be viable as the international standard currency. Rue this day, my friends.

We only threaten other countries with embargo nowadays. Korea and Iran pose just as large a nuclear threat now as cuba did in the 60's.
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post #12 of 15 Old 11-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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Ohh, I'm probably going to hate myself for posting, but I can't resist.

Basically, Cuban Americans in the Southern part of Florida have a tremendous amount of $'s and lobbying power towards your gov't. They've always had a loud voice, and have pressured your gov't to remain indignant towards Cuba for many many years. The Republicans have, for the most part, required Florida to win an election. Obama, did not. Hence the easing of tensions between Cuba and the states in the last little while.

Strong attempts were made with Raul, and the olive branch was extended, but I believe some of his "requirements" were just a little to strong. We'll see what happens, but this embargo ending has the best shot under this administration then ever before.

Basically, IMHO, any stimulation of your economy you can get, should be taken advantage of. With the new tax laws on our beloved cigars in the U.S., lifting the embargo could go a long way to make things better. But we have to remember what would happen to the makers of some of our fine NC's!

Digging a bit deeper...... There was an excellent article in Time magazine a few years back that discussed how Kennedy told his military commnanders that he would NOT authorize any additional support to the bay of pigs assault once it was launched. His commanders didn't believe him, and when they went to him for the support he stood his ground and refused.

The bay of pigs issue has been a sore spot for many people, for many years. Especially since Kennedy was a democrat. The are many other issues as to the Embargo and I by no means am picking sides.

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post #13 of 15 Old 11-04-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Cuban Double Standard

Originally Posted by eyesack View Post
Seriously! I'd wonder what would happen if our president's Newports were made in Cuba? I mean, he didn't ban all other flavored cigarettes... :hide: lol j/k hopefully soon they stop that embargo sillyness! I think they're allowing people to go to Cuba now, right?
HA! I've never thought about the flavored part like that! nice
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post #14 of 15 Old 11-04-2009, 07:22 PM
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From a Canadian point of view the embargo is a funny thing. Being in Cuba, we even get treated different than Americans, as if Americans are evil and us Canadians are completely different. I suppose it's just the propaganda (on both ends) that leads to this. The whole issue has more to do with economics than anything. There's really not a lot to be gained by the US from opening the embargo (except maybe for cigar lovers), whereas creating an embargo with China would cripple the US economy overnight.
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post #15 of 15 Old 11-04-2009, 07:37 PM
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Re: Cuban Double Standard

it is kind of silly not only do we not trade with Cuba but in the early 90's the US tightened the embargo and made it so that any vessel that docks to trade with Cuba is not allowed to dock within the US for at least 6 months, which cut their food supply by around 80% and the average Cuban lost 20lbs that following year. There is a good documentary on it called the power of community
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